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		<title>By: One Year Later and @NewEgg is Still Winning &#124; Business Over Coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Year Later and @NewEgg is Still Winning &#124; Business Over Coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You respond, &#8216;Newegg has them for $50 less. That exact product.&#8217; The employee looks back at you oddly&#8230; I wrote about this story in February of 2010 and pointed to the fact that if something didn&#8217;t change, companies like NewEgg and Amazon were certainly going to win that race (the original blog found here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You respond, &#8216;Newegg has them for $50 less. That exact product.&#8217; The employee looks back at you oddly&#8230; I wrote about this story in February of 2010 and pointed to the fact that if something didn&#8217;t change, companies like NewEgg and Amazon were certainly going to win that race (the original blog found here). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sales Increase &#124; Business Over Coffee</title>
		<link>http://businessovercoffee.com/2010/02/12/so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Sales Increase &#124; Business Over Coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the lower price (as one of our bloggers Zach did when purchasing his new Flip camera &#8211; read his post here). If a company wants to make any sort of profit, they probably will not do so by trying to compete [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the lower price (as one of our bloggers Zach did when purchasing his new Flip camera &#8211; read his post here). If a company wants to make any sort of profit, they probably will not do so by trying to compete [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
		<link>http://businessovercoffee.com/2010/02/12/so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Social comments and analytics for this post...&lt;/strong&gt;

This post was mentioned on Twitter by zachbunn: Posted a blog this morning on the awesomeness that is @Newegg and why they are winning against giants like Best Buy. http://bit.ly/9gADFE...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by zachbunn: Posted a blog this morning on the awesomeness that is @Newegg and why they are winning against giants like Best Buy. <a href="http://bit.ly/9gADFE.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/9gADFE..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Spitzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Spitzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing! Simply put. Hopefully my comments don&#039;t end up being the length of a typical post, however some important issues JUMPED OUT at me. First of all, this is another perfect case of &quot;customer disservice&quot; as famously quoted by financial planner Clark Howard. Yes, it&#039;s an issue to me that Best Buy refused to price match (as my favorite store in the world, even more so now that they have Apple stores inside of them, I have become used to this issue) however, it&#039;s not the bigger issue.

If we use the &quot;So What&quot; question Zach posed earlier, we can dig deeper into the real problem, which in my mind is a management decision. Why has upper management not given floor level sales employees the right to do a simple task such as override a normal policy in a case such as Zach&#039;s? Best Buy does discount big purchase packages. For example, if you purchase a new $2,000 LED TV, a 300 Monster power supply, $50 HDMI cable, and whatever else, there&#039;s a good chance that if you ask, the employee will discount a fair amount of the total. But why not on an Flip camera?

The obvious answer here is margin. They make way more profit on the TV package purchase than one measly camera. Or do they? Many of us know the principal of 80% of a company&#039;s business comes from 20% of its customers. And while this may not always be true, I&#039;m willing to bet Best Buy&#039;s percentage is right around there. So a repeat customer is way more valuable than a new one. So if a dissatisfied customer such as Zach decides to not shop there anymore, they may have lost a lot more than a one time purchase. Also on the subject of margin, I&#039;m pretty sure Best Buy isn&#039;t going to sell out of every single Flip camera, trust me. So if they would have price matched Newegg, they probably still would have made a profit, even if it was only a few dollars, which is much better than zero dollars.

Fhew almost done I promise... The final area I&#039;d like to comment on is that fact that Best Buy said that online only retailers were &quot;non-competitors.&quot; In my mind, this is not an actual term. I began to understand this a few weeks ago after reading &quot;Why We Buy: The Science of Shopping&quot; by Paco Underhill (great book I might add - Thanks Dr. Greene). Anyways, the basic foundation for this idea is based on the fact that every company competes with every other company because of a customer&#039;s time and money. Maybe a customer has in mind that they either want a new pair of shoes or a Flip camera. After much consideration, they decide to go with the shoes. Well, Best Buy just lost a sale to Journey&#039;s, a &quot;non-competitor.&quot; This close-minded thinking must end, or like Zach said, Brick and Mortar stores will continue to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing! Simply put. Hopefully my comments don&#8217;t end up being the length of a typical post, however some important issues JUMPED OUT at me. First of all, this is another perfect case of &#8220;customer disservice&#8221; as famously quoted by financial planner Clark Howard. Yes, it&#8217;s an issue to me that Best Buy refused to price match (as my favorite store in the world, even more so now that they have Apple stores inside of them, I have become used to this issue) however, it&#8217;s not the bigger issue.</p>
<p>If we use the &#8220;So What&#8221; question Zach posed earlier, we can dig deeper into the real problem, which in my mind is a management decision. Why has upper management not given floor level sales employees the right to do a simple task such as override a normal policy in a case such as Zach&#8217;s? Best Buy does discount big purchase packages. For example, if you purchase a new $2,000 LED TV, a 300 Monster power supply, $50 HDMI cable, and whatever else, there&#8217;s a good chance that if you ask, the employee will discount a fair amount of the total. But why not on an Flip camera?</p>
<p>The obvious answer here is margin. They make way more profit on the TV package purchase than one measly camera. Or do they? Many of us know the principal of 80% of a company&#8217;s business comes from 20% of its customers. And while this may not always be true, I&#8217;m willing to bet Best Buy&#8217;s percentage is right around there. So a repeat customer is way more valuable than a new one. So if a dissatisfied customer such as Zach decides to not shop there anymore, they may have lost a lot more than a one time purchase. Also on the subject of margin, I&#8217;m pretty sure Best Buy isn&#8217;t going to sell out of every single Flip camera, trust me. So if they would have price matched Newegg, they probably still would have made a profit, even if it was only a few dollars, which is much better than zero dollars.</p>
<p>Fhew almost done I promise&#8230; The final area I&#8217;d like to comment on is that fact that Best Buy said that online only retailers were &#8220;non-competitors.&#8221; In my mind, this is not an actual term. I began to understand this a few weeks ago after reading &#8220;Why We Buy: The Science of Shopping&#8221; by Paco Underhill (great book I might add &#8211; Thanks Dr. Greene). Anyways, the basic foundation for this idea is based on the fact that every company competes with every other company because of a customer&#8217;s time and money. Maybe a customer has in mind that they either want a new pair of shoes or a Flip camera. After much consideration, they decide to go with the shoes. Well, Best Buy just lost a sale to Journey&#8217;s, a &#8220;non-competitor.&#8221; This close-minded thinking must end, or like Zach said, Brick and Mortar stores will continue to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple points here: Unless you live in a select few states, including those where Newegg has warehouses (CA, TN, and NJ), you didn&#039;t pay sales tax on your camera, thus saving you more than $25. At the same time, Newegg charges a restocking fee for returns on the vast majority of items it sells regardless of whether it was opened or not. On top of that, you also would have to pay return shipping costs. If you needed to send back your camera, you would lose $26.25 in restocking fees as well as another $10-15 for shipping. Yes, Best Buy also has restocking fees, but it does not impose them on as many items.

Also, you seem very dismissive of &quot;the cost of the brick and mortar&quot; of retail stores. There&#039;s a lot more to overhead than that. You have factors such as: rent, electricity, shelves, security systems, and perhaps most costly: employees. Sure, online retailers have those systems as well, but you&#039;re talking about a handful of warehouse locations around the country, while Best Buy probably has more stores in southern California than Newegg and Amazon have distribution centers around the country. It all adds up pretty fast. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong, you&#039;re absolutely correct about savvy consumers being able to save more by buying online. I&#039;m a member of Amazon Prime myself and absolutely love it, and I&#039;ve probably spent close to $10,000 buying from Newegg over the last 5-6 years. I&#039;m just saying that you&#039;ve oversimplifying a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple points here: Unless you live in a select few states, including those where Newegg has warehouses (CA, TN, and NJ), you didn&#8217;t pay sales tax on your camera, thus saving you more than $25. At the same time, Newegg charges a restocking fee for returns on the vast majority of items it sells regardless of whether it was opened or not. On top of that, you also would have to pay return shipping costs. If you needed to send back your camera, you would lose $26.25 in restocking fees as well as another $10-15 for shipping. Yes, Best Buy also has restocking fees, but it does not impose them on as many items.</p>
<p>Also, you seem very dismissive of &#8220;the cost of the brick and mortar&#8221; of retail stores. There&#8217;s a lot more to overhead than that. You have factors such as: rent, electricity, shelves, security systems, and perhaps most costly: employees. Sure, online retailers have those systems as well, but you&#8217;re talking about a handful of warehouse locations around the country, while Best Buy probably has more stores in southern California than Newegg and Amazon have distribution centers around the country. It all adds up pretty fast. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, you&#8217;re absolutely correct about savvy consumers being able to save more by buying online. I&#8217;m a member of Amazon Prime myself and absolutely love it, and I&#8217;ve probably spent close to $10,000 buying from Newegg over the last 5-6 years. I&#8217;m just saying that you&#8217;ve oversimplifying a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: brad.</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think there is yet another double edged sword in Best Buy&#039;s business model.  By having stock on display locally, especially items like TVs, the consumer not only gets to see what they are buying and compare directly with other models they also have the ability to return the item easily to the store should it be defective.  Again, with a large TV this is a bit of a hassle with online retailers.  

But, on the flip side, Best Buy is offering a free compare/contrast service for customers who then buy items cheaper online.  And assuming that if the TV makes it through the shipping process from Newegg, the chances of it needing to be returned for defects are probably fairly low.  That fact may overrule the safety net of having a local brick and mortar for product returns.

I have to admit, I looked at Newegg when I was looking for a new TV.  But I don&#039;t trust UPS with large deliveries after experiencing several incidents of damaged goods over the past few years.  I ended up buying from a local electronics shop, not Best Buy.  However I wouldn&#039;t even consider buying computer components (or an entire system for that matter) from Best Buy, Newegg gets my dollar every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I think there is yet another double edged sword in Best Buy&#8217;s business model.  By having stock on display locally, especially items like TVs, the consumer not only gets to see what they are buying and compare directly with other models they also have the ability to return the item easily to the store should it be defective.  Again, with a large TV this is a bit of a hassle with online retailers.  </p>
<p>But, on the flip side, Best Buy is offering a free compare/contrast service for customers who then buy items cheaper online.  And assuming that if the TV makes it through the shipping process from Newegg, the chances of it needing to be returned for defects are probably fairly low.  That fact may overrule the safety net of having a local brick and mortar for product returns.</p>
<p>I have to admit, I looked at Newegg when I was looking for a new TV.  But I don&#8217;t trust UPS with large deliveries after experiencing several incidents of damaged goods over the past few years.  I ended up buying from a local electronics shop, not Best Buy.  However I wouldn&#8217;t even consider buying computer components (or an entire system for that matter) from Best Buy, Newegg gets my dollar every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting read.  I was actually talking with some friends last night about places that refuse to negotiate on the price.  It&#039;s unfortunate that brick and mortars refuse to acknowledge that though their online counterparts may not be competitors by some strict definition, they will be put out of business by these non-competitors sooner or later if they don&#039;t wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting read.  I was actually talking with some friends last night about places that refuse to negotiate on the price.  It&#8217;s unfortunate that brick and mortars refuse to acknowledge that though their online counterparts may not be competitors by some strict definition, they will be put out of business by these non-competitors sooner or later if they don&#8217;t wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: davidgraddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidgraddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great insight.  I ran into a similar problem with Lowe&#039;s this summer.  I was wanting to buy this nice grill, well they were asking about about $300 dollars for it.  Well, I knew they had a matching plus 10% discount if you could find it for less.  So, I went to Academy to see if they sold it.  They did for $50 less.  So, I went back to Lowe&#039;s and told them about Academy&#039;s price.  They called to confirm the price and informed me they would match it.  I asked about the extra 10% and they told me that Academy was not a competitor. I was confused because obviously Academy IS a competitor.  I went ahead and bought it at Lowe&#039;s only because Academy was out of stock.  

Some business just don&#039;t understand who their competitor&#039;s truly are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great insight.  I ran into a similar problem with Lowe&#8217;s this summer.  I was wanting to buy this nice grill, well they were asking about about $300 dollars for it.  Well, I knew they had a matching plus 10% discount if you could find it for less.  So, I went to Academy to see if they sold it.  They did for $50 less.  So, I went back to Lowe&#8217;s and told them about Academy&#8217;s price.  They called to confirm the price and informed me they would match it.  I asked about the extra 10% and they told me that Academy was not a competitor. I was confused because obviously Academy IS a competitor.  I went ahead and bought it at Lowe&#8217;s only because Academy was out of stock.  </p>
<p>Some business just don&#8217;t understand who their competitor&#8217;s truly are.</p>
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